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Sometimes when you're in a vile mood and fed up with everything, attempting to fill the world with love (gritting your teeth all the while) is strangely therapeutic. Here's hoping, anway.

Pinched from [personal profile] ignipes:

Give me the names of two characters and I will tell you why character A loves character B. I might answer with a drabble, a quick bit of meta, or a list, just to make things that tiny bit more OMGSOEXCITING!

Pick anyone from Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, Star Trek: Enterprise, Star Trek: The Next Generation or any other book you think I might have read.

Bring it on...

Date: 2007-08-10 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickofthedark.livejournal.com
Why does Luna love Colin Creevey?

Date: 2007-08-10 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
(have you read my story, or is this just a very uncanny coincidence?)

The short version: Luna loves Colin because he believed her when she said there was a giant in the Forbidden Forest, because together they learned the truth about Grawp, and because of the friendship that began when Grawp was their secret, back in the days when everyone picked on both of them for being weird. She also finds his Muggle good sense a refreshing change, even when he talks about things - such as the Hubble Space Telescope and blood groups - that are plainly nonsensical.

The long version: The Story What I Wrote - Furious Wielder of Storms, featuring Colin, Luna and Grawp http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/pavonis/FWOS.html

Date: 2007-08-10 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickofthedark.livejournal.com
Ahahaha! It's a coincidence! Now I'm going to have to go read your story. Wow!

Date: 2007-08-10 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickofthedark.livejournal.com
Site isn't working. Your stuff archived anywhere else?

Date: 2007-08-11 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Argh, sorry about that!

Here's the link to the Pit of Voles - it was working a minute ago, so this one should be OK.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2925938/1/

With a smile and a song

Date: 2007-08-10 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
a) Mr Darcy

b) Mr Bingley

Hope the mood improves.

Re: With a smile and a song

Date: 2007-08-10 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Mr Darcy loves Bingley because he is a loyal friend. What he has never quite been able to tell Bingley is how much he enjoys Bingley's warm heart and easy enthusiasms. Although Darcy is quite the opposite in personality, he has a real yearning towards sanguine, happy types who are everything he is not. This is one of the reasons why he took to Lizzy, too.

Date: 2007-08-10 12:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
Gene Hunt and Sam Tyler.

Date: 2007-08-10 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
(compliant only to Episode 7 of the first series - I have no idea what happens in any of Series 2, so don't be too harsh if I'm off target...)

Gene loves the way Sam makes him do good things, such as arresting evil gangsters. He also enjoys the way Sam makes no attempt to fanboy him - all that adulation from people like Ray (what's his name again?) was great stuff, but it was all a bit the same.

I think on some level he sees Sam as a reflection of himself. For this reason, he would continue to like Sam if he stopped being the Good One - in fact, this would make Gene happy, as he would see it as a validation of some of his less savoury choices.

Date: 2007-08-10 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolabellae.livejournal.com
Sorry to hear the world is like that! Can't decide whether I should choose an impossible or a fluffy pairing to cheer you up... Ok, we're going for the just plain insane-

Why does Antoine St Just love Camille Desmoulins (APOGS characterisations, that is)

Date: 2007-08-10 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Before all the family gossip started, before Saint-Just ever heard of his cousin Camille, he was seriously contemplating being a missionary for one of the less humorous religious orders. Camille opened a whole new world of things it was possible to be.

He just wishes he could behave sensibly around his cousin, just once. The sad reality is that they seem to bring out the worst in each other.

Date: 2007-08-10 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolabellae.livejournal.com
Well, when you put it like that... Oh dear, rather sad, isn't it? Sniffle.

Although I did love the way you put one of the less humorous religious orders.!

Would the other way round be more of a challenge? Ignore me if I'm just being greedy!

I got asked to compile a list of reading suggestions for a big group holiday I'm going on in a couple of weeks. I chose APoGS, and am now desperately hoping that people love it; as I think I said to [livejournal.com profile] nineveh_uk a while ago I am far too emotionally connected to it...

Date: 2007-08-10 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
That's easy - Camille loves his cousin because he's such a perfect butt for all his jokes...

Date: 2007-08-10 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
I got asked to compile a list of reading suggestions for a big group holiday I'm going on in a couple of weeks. I chose APoGS, and am now desperately hoping that people love it; as I think I said to nineveh_uk a while ago I am far too emotionally connected to it...

Always a risk. But you will be introducing people to the delights of Hilary Mantel - and that has to be good news...

Date: 2007-08-11 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trude.livejournal.com
That is a really good book.
Er, I've nothing more interesting to say.

Date: 2007-08-10 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-wanderlust.livejournal.com
I know nothing about fandoms etc....just never got round to exploring them adequately. But do we have to pick two characters from the same book/series? My mind was going wild with bizarre possibilities......

Date: 2007-08-10 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
But do we have to pick two characters from the same book/series? My mind was going wild with bizarre possibilities......

No reason at all why they should be from the same series! Show me your possibilities!

Date: 2007-08-10 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-wanderlust.livejournal.com
OK, well, you asked for it! I'd love you to tell me why my most hated character and my most adored character might possibly love each other. Dolores Umbridge and Jean-Luc Picard...
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Well, you asked for it.

Umbridge proved intractable to all Azkaban could do to rehabilitate her and make her into a decent person - so as a last resort, they called in Q.

Q felt ready for another bout of Picard-torturing, so he altered the fabric of reality so that Umbridge was made Starfleet ensign (despite failing to meet both the height and age qualification) and placed on the enterprise as her last resort before being expelled from Starfleet as a troublemaker.

Picard, ever professional, manfully struggled against his distate for her political manoeverings and toxic personality, and, very slowly, with a combination of dangerous toil, positions of real trust and sessions with Counsellor Troi as a last resort, gradually overcame all her old habits and made her a useful member of the crew. She now oversees the entire janitorial and cleaning staff of E and F deck (her team came top in the last surprise Admiral's inspection), and is very happy. She will never forget Picard for showing her the joys of the community when you are working with people instead of harrying and bullying them. She is still far from popular, but she is getting there. Data is giving her lessons in humanity, and she is starting to realise that she has a lot to learn.

Picard has a soft spot for Umbridge as well - he finds her prickly, but every time he looks at her he gets a warm glow - he reformed the ensign that even Q had given up on as a bad job!
From: [identity profile] ms-wanderlust.livejournal.com
I stand in the presence of greatness! Nicely reasoned :) You might even inspire me to something fandom-like......
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
*blushes*

If you're feeling at all like writing this, I'd love to read it!
From: [identity profile] ms-wanderlust.livejournal.com
I think I need something to start with....something simple. Feel free to suggest something if you can. Don't dare post my own little fandom challenge until I've had some practice.

Is this useful?

Date: 2007-08-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
If you're looking for prompts for something small to try your hand, have you tried [livejournal.com profile] omniocular? They're a great place for non-romantic Harry Potter fanfic challenges. Even if you aren't a member, you can send a link to your story to the mods, and they will post a link. For this reason, [livejournal.com profile] omniocular is also a really good source of good fanfic, especially if, like me, you aren't all that fond of the romantic variety.

I started out with a ship-generator on Fiction Alley, which just gave you two characters and a connecting sentence. I got "The Golden Snitch has a massive crush on Bartemius Crouch Senior"! The story was actually quite fun to write, and after that I had a bit more confidence to write my own story ideas. The ideas also seemed to come a lot more easily after I'd started writing.

Hope some of this helps, anyway...

Re: Is this useful?

Date: 2007-08-11 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-wanderlust.livejournal.com
Thanks for this. I will have to wait for a while to do anything relating to DH as my dad has my book at the moment! I might try my hand at something non-HP. I need something very short initially...will have to give it some thought.

Re: Is this useful?

Date: 2007-08-13 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
If you do decide to go for it, do please send a link - I'd love to see what you come up with!

Omniocular

Date: 2007-08-11 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Whoops - forgot the link to this month's Omniocular Challenge - over 100 prompts based on the new canon still up for grabs!

http://community.livejournal.com/omniocular/168026.html

Enjoy!

Date: 2007-08-10 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trude.livejournal.com
Why does Dobby love Winky?

Date: 2007-08-10 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Dobby loves Winky for who she is - the only woman who can be neither a mistress to him nor a slave to someone else. She's a free elf, she's in distress and he can help.

Also, he thinks she has an adorably funny nose.

Date: 2007-08-11 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trude.livejournal.com
Also, he thinks she has an adorably funny nose.
Aaaaaaw.

Date: 2007-08-11 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
And awwwwwwww to your icon! Tove Jansson!

Date: 2007-08-10 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krisomniac.livejournal.com
John Snow and Harry Potter

Date: 2007-08-10 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Jon Snow has always felt a bond with Harry. Both were raised as outsiders in otherwise stable families, both had the fate of the world thrust on their shoulders when they were far too young, and both really just crave anonymity. It's natural that they would get on.

Date: 2007-08-11 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbassassin.livejournal.com
Okay, now I want to write JS/HP. *shakes fist at Ett* Stop giving me more ships, woman! ;)

Date: 2007-08-11 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Well, that's fandom for you. Ships just keep happening...

Date: 2007-08-10 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Oh why not? Brienne and the Blackfish.

Date: 2007-08-10 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Happy birthday!

Brienne loves the Blackfish because he is a great warrior and a decent human being. He also appears to be completely indifferent as to whether she is beautiful or not - he only judges her on her fighting skills, which is the one thing she's craved all her adult life, and the one thing no-one will do for her.

Date: 2007-08-10 11:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Thank you. :)

And that's actually quite convincing -- even if the Blackfish is gay, as some people speculate!

Date: 2007-08-11 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
And that's actually quite convincing -- even if the Blackfish is gay, as some people speculate!

Well, considering that her first crush was Renly, I don't think it would matter much even if he was.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Blackfish were gay - though I think that GRRM may well stop short of being particularly explicit on this one, given that the cultural mores of the place the Blackfish is in don't allow it.

Still, does it matter if the result is that he treats Brienne like a warrior instead of an ugly girl in armour?

Date: 2007-08-11 09:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Not at all -- in fact even Jaime seems to be taking that attitude. Jaime/Brienne OTP! (If they survive, of course.)

I'm not sure homosexuality -- or at any rate homosexual acts -- is/are that much against the mores of Westeros actually? It's a world which basically takes medieval Europe, shifts bits around, and adds some magic; as I read it, the attitude would be that as long as you marry and produce an heir and a spare, any other indulgences are your own business. The attitude towards Renly and Loras seems to be sneers rather than the outright condemnation for incest or kinslaying.

Date: 2007-08-11 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
as I read it, the attitude would be that as long as you marry and produce an heir and a spare, any other indulgences are your own business. The attitude towards Renly and Loras seems to be sneers rather than the outright condemnation for incest or kinslaying.

That's as good a summary as I can think of. After all, it was refusal to marry that got the Blackfish kicked out, wasn't it, not homosexuality (or whispers of it?)

And good point about Loras and Renly - the general idea seems to be that it's just a rather mockable habit provided you've done your duty and got married as well.

Date: 2007-08-10 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themolesmother.livejournal.com
How about Archer and T'pol?

MM

Date: 2007-08-11 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
I'm afraid that (as with most things with Archer) it's all perfectly simple. He loves her stretchy Vulcan uniform.

T'pol, on the other hand, loves Archer because he bothers her superiors so much (remember - he is in the Guinness Book of Records as the only human to have made a Vulcan facepalm in public). She has made much use of the confusion and panic he engenders among most Vulcans to cut various advantageous business and career deals.

Date: 2007-08-10 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbassassin.livejournal.com
Tell me about the lurve between Sansa Stark and the Hound.

(he's alive and they waited until she was of age, of course)

Date: 2007-08-11 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
Sansa took the Hound's ravaged face between her hands.

"Sandor," she whispered, so softly that in the days to come he wondered if he had dreamed it, "Sandor, my true knight."

Date: 2007-08-11 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbassassin.livejournal.com
HAHAHA!

My bluff is well and truly called. :)

Cheers!

Date: 2007-08-11 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com
My first ever fanfic was a Golden Snitch/Barty Crouch Sr challenge fic, so I think it's fair to say that after that I tend to approach most shipping with the view that anything's possible!

Date: 2007-08-11 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbassassin.livejournal.com
My first ever fanfic was a Golden Snitch/Barty Crouch Sr challenge fic

You know, if I'd got that prompt in my first fic challenge, I'd never have written again (though my first fic is almost as implausible). :)

Date: 2007-08-13 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olivegreengarb.livejournal.com
Az n Crowley ! :)

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